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Remember to discuss in the "DISCUSSION" area! not here! -eric

 * __basically, what we can do is that everyone create one discussion topic, asking a question or a real life connection (for jan.21~jan.28) state your topic in the "subject" of the discussion. then others can go to that certain dicussion to post their thoughts or responses to that particular discussion. -eric__**

HOLY MOLY!! I'm SOOO SORRY Eric, Emily Arthur!!!! i dont know what i did!!! i think i deleted the whole PAGE!!!!!!! jackie this is the original page :  Jan. 20 ...I found an interesting passage. What do you guys think about the part on pg.78~ 79, where "Denham's Dentrifice" keeps showing up? I read that part at least ten times untill I finally understood it. I think Montag is going crazy from desperation because of the books. When he hears the train music chanting "Denham's Dentrifice," he starts trying to argue back, forcing the music to stop and take in the beauty of fresh lilies in a field. Nowadays people never stop and observe Mother Nature, so he's trying to make them understand. The author describes feelings of desperation really well by telling us how it feels when trying to fill a sieve with sand. What do you guys think?? -emily

Ok, so lets continue the discussion although the next one is going to begin soon. Maybe we should discuss something that we didn't quite discuss about in the literature circle. I'll start off with a question -eric 1. What do you think Captain Beatty meant when she (he?) said " I'm full of bits and pieces," "Most fireman captains have to be. Sometimes I suprise myself...." (40)

Eric. Well, I think it means that sometimes the firemen have to act strong, and when someone chooses to die (like the woman with her books) they have to be strong, and become harsh to face the death of another person, but this is not something they can control, it is their job.

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Just found a short clip from Youtube about the movie. It is only 1 minute and 30 seconds, doesn't give away any part that we haven't read, and shows how Mildred (Linda in the movie) interacts with the walls (television shows) -eric Link: media type="youtube" key="LTWTjRiXDEI&rel=1" height="355" width="425"

Comment: Nice clip =) It shows us how future TV's interact with their audiences, just like the way Mildred talks with her "family." -emily

Comment 2 (Jan 21): Really interesting clip.^^ I wonder if we could really interact with future televisions, and who's going to invent it. By the way, now it's not hard to tell why Mildred considers the parlor as her "real" family. She spends more time interacting with the television than spending time with Montag. Thank you, Eric, for the clip. - Arthur

Oops, I haven't visited the page for such a while. Anyways, referring to Jan 20 Emily's post, I didn't even get the passage until you pointed that out...great insight on the passage. Yes, I suppose that Montag did have lots of crumpled and corrupt thoughts going in his head, just like the raindrops passage. (One, Clarisse. Two Mildred, etc.) However, I still didn't get how the word "Dentifrice", a paste or liquid for cleaning teeth, has anything to do with the train and Montag's thoughts. Dentists? Who's Denham? And why are they talking about teeth cleaning? I do agree that the author did a splendid job describing the despair Montag experienced. Mr. Fox did mention that this could be "an impossible task" for Montag, which I think might have a connection to Pleasantville, the main character changing the people into color and all that. Montag's task in Fahrenheit 451's case might be to revive books into this world. Also, about Eric's passage on p.40, I suppose that Captain was trying to tell the fire crew he has little bits and pieces of information in his head. I think so because Beatty explained the background of the old woman's passage. ("Play the man, Master Ridley; ...as I trust shall never be put out.") Beatty said, "A man named Latimer said that to a man named Nicholas Ridley, as they were being burnt alive at Oxford, for heresy, on October 16, 1555." - Arthur on January 21, 2008